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In Depth Song Process

It's been quite an hectic past couple of weeks working on new collaborations sending off stems to peeps privately and getting stems off peeps to mix. Was so pleased to get out the latest collab I done with my good friend Allan Lyon entitled "Dragons in the Mist".  I came across Alan around 6 months ago on the cloud and have always loved his ability to Rock with what he has on his fine cloud.

 

Alan is very much a solid guitarist and great player, and a guy with a bit of a good rocking vocal attached to him, and when he approached me some 3 weeks ago with a new song he was working on, asking me advice and my thoughts about it, I was most impressed.

 

Though what he had at the time was basically the structure of the music more or less and incomplete, what he had spoke to me very well, that much that I very much told him I would love to sing on this and do a collab with him. Alan told me he had been working on some lyrics and even said that would be a great idea.

 

When Alan had wrote the lyrics he presented them to me before I had actually heard him sing on the song. I was most impressed by the way he had actually marked out both of our parts to sing on, along the verses and the chorus with a V for Viking and an S for Saxon.  Though in the end I did alter a few of each of our parts, and the chorus was perhaps the biggest change as I felt that singing one each time, in turns it would be better if we both just came in on them.

 

Allan even offered me the choice of which parts I would like to sing on, and wanted to know if I wanted to be the Viking or the Saxon. Has it was his song I very much felt it important for him to kick it off, so I chose to be the Saxon. The song was very much a battle and one I was well chuffed to have a place in the epic adventure.

 

About a week later Allan had made some adjustments to the music and presented me now with the complete song with him singing all the parts, so I could get the idea of where he was coming from, and asked me what I thought again. My initial reaction was that the song was great, and I could see  by the way he had structured it with dual guitar melodies this was one classic rock song. But what did not speak to me was the production.

 

I could hear straight away it was very muddy and like dirt, and I knew most of this was really down to the levels in the mix more than anything else. Everything was thrown way to up front, even his vocals were and it made him sound quite naff to be honest.

 

To be honest Alan's production work is not the best at times, and even with the many songs he has on his cloud you can see they are all pushed to forward and up front. It's also this factor that in reality that ruins his own voice down a bit by not projecting it that well, being compressed with everything else together in the mix, and having no real space or openness.

 

It was at this stage I told him the truth as it did sound like dirt and I asked him if he would not mind me doing the production and sending me over all the stems. Alan agreed openly and soon got them to me, and said he was going to redo his vocals again and send them on when done.

 

At this stage he had sent me 10 stems all in which contained his guitars, bass and drums. So I set off to work working on the drums first followed by the bass, rhythm guitars and so on. Getting all the levels right and applying the odd bit of EQ and compression. I very much know how fussy guitarists are regarding their own sound, and I knew Allan would not be happy if I changed any of his effects he originally applied to them himself, so my way of going about them was to get the right levels and the panning right on them first to allow space for everything else that was gonna be in the mix.

 

However I did apply the odd touch of enhancing FX to Allan's guitars to project them better, and when I sent Allan an example demo of how the mix was going, he told me himself the guitars sound fantastic and was well impressed.

 

On that first mix I sent Allan I did change the sound of the bass guitar, and I must admit I really loved the bass guitar I had in this 1st mix I sent him, but Allan did not, he said it was sort of Bee Gee esc, so I very much changed it to suit him. Though in reality for me that bass was way better, and the fact that everything was not in the mix at this stage, I very much felt it needed to be more dominate and the rest of the stuff that was going to be in it would take that edge off it.

 

For me personally the new sound applied to the bass I put in which is the final mix we put out, the bass is not dominant enough at all, and you will have to listen hard to hear it with everything else taking centre stage in the song. I must admit as well that guitarists are not really great bass players in comparison to a person who is dedicated the bass guitar and is a real player of the instrument.  Most guitarists in reality just play so standard with their lines on the bass to follow pattern rather than have any idea of a melody on the damn thing.

 

For a guitarist Allan's Bass was quite good to be honest, but no one will get to hear that side of it now (LOL) But I would very well state had I continued with the bass I had in that first mix, the overall result would of been better than the final mix that is out, but I am pleased how it did turn out overall.

 

Meanwhile when Allan sent me his now rerecorded vocal stems, once again he had sung all of the song, and told me to take out the parts where I come in with my own voice. Having heard Allan's voice really for the first time properly and away from his other productions on his cloud. I instantly knew this guy had one hell of rock voice.

 

His voice actually spoke to me that much that when I put it into the song and mixed it, I very much told him myself that I do not feel if I could do any justice to this song at all with my own voice (to which I had not even tried to sing or recorded at this point) for me the song sounded great with just Allan's voice on it.

 

As much as I love rock music, there is no way on this earth I would ever class myself as a rock singer. So I told Allan I would give it a shot and see if it works, and if not we will just put the song out with his vocals and I was happy enough just taking care of the production side of it.

 

When I recorded my vocal parts for this song, I only done one take, because to be honest how I had already heard it with Allan's voice on it, for me worked and I was not convinced I could actually fit into this one at all, which is why I did not feel it necessary to do more than one take.

 

Having mixed my vocal parts and hearing it back I was quite surprised how it did actually work, but still was not convinced, so I sent it to Allan and asked him what he thought. Allan thought it was great and even said it had a Ronnie James Dio side to it. I have no Idea who I was trying to sound like at the time, and in reality I only just sung it, but he was spot on. Cause there are some of those qualities in parts of them vocals I sang, especially in the 2nd verse.

 

I cannot thank Allan enough for giving me the opportunity to do the production and sing on this classic rock song he wrote. For me it was an honour just to mix it, cause the song is in every way a classic rock song just like the many I heard myself back in the 70's.

 

It was very much a song that in all honesty was worthy of a real professional production and not one done by just myself here, which is nowhere near that standard. But I felt it came out very well in the end, and so did Allan, and if he continues to write songs in this classic style I would like to produce everyone of them, regardless to having any part in them. Because had he had put it out in the way it was when he presented me, it would of been a real shame.

Posted on the 27th August 2013

Posted on the 16th August 2013

An in depth feature into the process of the songs I have had the pleasure of working on.

Posted on the 31st October 2014

The Recycle (From Death Comes Life) is a concept story over 7 parts to which most of its work was done between the last week in July to the first week in September way back in 2012. It's perhaps the most bizarre thing I have ever done in how it actually happened to come about in the first place, and how it came about in the first place was via Jaime contacting me and Vlad back in that last week of July 2012 asking us both if we could do a piece of music or a song for Stefan's Birthday to which both myself and Vlad told her sure.

 

This was back in the last week of July 2012 and we had till the first week in September of that year to get this thing done. Well in reality that task may have been very easy had I just started to do say a 4 or 5 minute song. But the real fact was that I totally lost the plot thinking in the way of going down some Gothic road to which I knew Stefan was into and would of perhaps liked. Not sure if the end result was anything like Gothic Rock or Progressive Rock to be honest and it was just a dark and haunting thing I kicked it off with from the start that led it into some rather strange journey.

 

 

At the end of the day although it has very much taken quite some time to get this piece of work out, and in reality I was rather hoping Stefan could of contributed to it, which is why it very much did take a back seat over these past couple of years. I cannot blame Stefan for holding it back at all, and only blame myself for not doing something with it a long while ago.

 

The fact that I myself get involved in so many other projects can even make me forget other pieces I have done in the past so easily, especially when work as grinded to an halt on it for so long. For me it's always the new thing I am working on that grabs my attention the most. I have a stack of unfinished work that goes back a hell of a lot longer than the work done here, to which I dare say will never see the light of day.

 

It's only from the other members involved in the collaboration who have messaged me asking me when it's going to get done, that really spurns me on to do something more with the piece to try and get it finished.

 

Back in late 2013 well over a year later. I remember Vlad sending me a message asking me what's going on with the piece and is it ever gonna be coming out. It was his message that got me back into writing more words for certain parts, and even working around the lyrics Jaime had sent me for part 2 to which I did rearrange and put in some words of my own, and even recorded myself singing them but did so with the use of my phone. Which is why I sang them again this week using my mic to get a better job done of it.

 

But also because of Vlad's message this also prompted me to get in touch with Mark Bennett to work on some of the parts for me, and even inspired me to get back in touch with Jaime asking her for some tears, which was a most unusual request to ask anybody to do, but she done it perfectly and was just the thing I wanted for part 3.

 

This whole thing came about in reality because of Jaime, so I really wanted her to have more of a part in the project, and as I was working on each part and building it along, I also remembered an haunting piano piece she had done herself a long while back on her cloud entitled "Walking in my Shadow" and thought it would be a great idea use her piece for part 6.

 

The fact that when I changed my haunting story to more along the lines of death and reincarnation still made this piece of hers work, and it was at this stage I added in brackets the words "The Spirit Lives On" to its title to be more fitting in with the new story line.

 

From the very time back in July or around August of 2012. I knew I wanted Mark involved in this project and even told Jaime and Vlad in the discussions we had about it all as work was in progress at the time. It was very much Part 5 Laid To Rest that I knew needed a priest and he would fit the bill perfectly. I had this vision all along with the music I created for that part. I just never had any words at the time. So those words I wrote for the funeral service and sent them over to Mark along with the music for him to recite them for me.

 

I have to say when Mark sent me it back with his recitation over the piece my jaw dropped. He was the most perfect person to do this part and my vision of him playing the part was spot on. I was that exited I sent it to Jaime to have a listen to it, and she even said it was perfect and you could not have asked for anything more.

 

It was at this stage that I knew things were starting to take shape more and further progress was being made. The fact that Mark had done such a brilliant job spurned me on to ask him to do some of the other parts for me.

 

Part 7 was a piece in reality I was going to actual murmur a few words on myself, and my vision was in a Pink Floyd way were they are very hard to hear and only are in the background. But I had no words and at the time was that busy writing lyrics for other songs and collabs I was involved in which very much deterred me from doing so, and prompted me to ask Mark to write the words and recite them in the piece instead.

 

When Mark had done so and sent me what he had done back to me, at first I was not really sure, but this is because I also knew in my mind I wanted guitar for this piece as well, and without that element it was very hard for me to visualise just what Mark had done here, but the words he wrote was really well good I felt, even at first I did think there was far too many of them.

 

I wrote back to Mark telling him my thoughts and he said exactly the same without the guitar it's hard to see if they would work and he told me you do not have to use them all and it was only an idea.

 

After these parts were done from earlier on this year once again the project had grinded to an halt, and it was not until I got a message off Chris Sheri asking me when this collaborative piece was ever gonna get put out last week. I never would have had any intentions of getting the whole thing out for this Halloween, because I had completely forgotten about it all and working on other collabs.

 

Even though Chris was not in the final production I put out on the cloud. I should explain why I decided to leave out some really talented flute playing she had played over part 3 of this project for me.

 

At the time I asked Chris to do this for me, work was very much still in its early stage of progress and development back in August of 2012 and by this stage I had only just done my piano piece which was to become part 3. Around this time I had just heard her recently play some flute over a guitar piece that Derek Cornet had put out on the cloud with her playing this fantastic bit of flute in, to which gave Derek's Guitar this super melancholy feel about the whole piece. It blew my head away and I thought to myself I would like a bit of that over this new piano piece I had just done.

 

So I sent my piano piece to Chris and it never even had Vlad's bass guitar on at the time and that's how early the whole thing was in its stages of work in progress. When Chris sent me the piece back with her super flute over it, I thought it was fantastic and loved it. Chris wanted to put it straight out on her cloud and I had to stop her straight away from doing so.

 

The fact is this whole project was a well kept secret and was meant to be a surprise for Stefan's birthday to which not even I could tell Chris the real reason why she was not allowed to put it out. But I told her it was for a collaborative piece of work with a good few other people involved so she will have to wait.

 

My whole vision from the haunting sort of Gothic start was also to make some ghostly Halloween story and if it had not of been the fact that I changed my idea and the storey as more parts were being done, I would of very much of had her flute in part 3. But as I was now working on the subject of death and reincarnation and entitled part 3 "The Bereavement" I soon noticed her flute made the piece a bit more jolly than sad. So I had to make the decision to take it out.

 

Though I made that decision by the time I had all the 7 parts done back in September of 2012. I did not tell Chris at this point, and it was only when she messaged me last week that made me send her a message back to tell her that her part was not going to be in the final release, and I explained my reasons in detail in that message. Though I only thought it fair to give her the heads up to put the piece out whenever she likes.

 

It took near enough a week for Chris to get back to me, and to be honest I was quite worried especially as it's never easy trying to tell somebody that their part had been dropped. It was far from the case that it was not good enough, because in reality it was fantastic, but not even fantastic would of now fitted that part with the story line being changed.

 

Chris got back to me on the very morning of the release day which was today the 31st, and I was so relieved to see how she accepted it and was totally professional about it all. She even told me she would put the piece out but not yet as she was working on a  new song with Robyn and that was going to be her next release.

 

I have a lot to thank Chris for, because she threw the spark back in me to try and rush and get this out for this Halloween and it was not until this very week I got in touch with Raphael to ask if he could help me out and play some guitar on some of the parts for me. It took some time for him to get back to me as he was busy himself. I finally heard from him on Tuesday and he told me he would have sometime on the Wednesday and see what he could do.

 

I had sent him 4 of the parts which were Parts 1,2,4 & 7 but I should mention here that I only sent him part 4 as an emergency stand by, because my original vision I had for part 4 with its jam was to make it really zany and a ball of a party sort of thing with ghosts and ghouls in it.

 

 

Even down to that fact that my story had changed from a ghostly Halloween story into something more spiritual about reincarnation, the fact that I had named this part "The Embalmer" I still very much wanted that zany zip about it, so I sent it to one of the zaniest freaking guys I had ever heard on Soundcloud and even told Raphael I had done so too.

 

His name is none other than Monk Zylo and for me this part would of been perfect for him to do is mad crazy stuff with it. For those who have never been on Monks cloud I can tell you now this guys work in some ways is like Frank Zappa. He will use drills and god knows what else besides his guitar in his whacky zany creations. The guy is great with mad words too, which was also something I wanted in this part, and he would of been quite capable of even improvising them in his own way as well.  

 

So I sent the piece to him last Sunday asking him if he could do his bizzo on it with his guitars drills and whatever, and to improvise some words around it as in being the embalmer, and some words as an example I suggested in that message that went along the lines of "I'm gonna pump up some stiff tonight and have myself a party".

 

By the time Tuesday came and I got the first reply back from Raphael. I was very much panicking because I had not heard one single Dickey Bird off Monk. So I had no choice the following day to tell Raphael the part was his to throw something on it. I still have not heard anything off Monk either and I dare say I will not either.

 

One of the 4 parts I sent to Raphael I wanted so much some guitar on was Part 2. But I knew it was going to very difficult because in reality Darren's drums were out of time, and even when Raphael heard this part he told me straight he could not work on that part cause his drums very much were so.

 

But I cannot blame Darren at all because he is one great drummer. But when I sent him this piece my vision was to have drums on it like Nick Mason plays on the track "Time" by Pink Floyd with them echoing and played in freestyle and not based on timing at all and more like real-time. Darren had not even heard of the track but tried to do what he could.

 

When I received his drums for this part he was also extremely busy and the drums I had a right game with to be honest, especially the opening cymbals to which he played in a 4/4 time when the piece was in fact very much in real-time and freestyle, so they never sat in at all. But I threw a Doppler on them running at a 3rd of the time coming in and out to defeat his timing, and in the end decided to throw out his cymbals, and for me it still works really great and I am well pleased with them to be honest. Sound wise they are exactly how I wanted them.

 

Darren's drums on part 4 are totally superb and was done much later on as I was progressing along, and you will soon hear what a truly great drummer he really is, and he has truly done a fantastic job for me to which I am well chuffed with.

 

So with Raphael only having one evening to work on the other 3 parts it was also very hard for him to get any clear visualisation for his guitar parts. But my only interest was getting his parts back in time to put this out this Friday on Halloween. If he could not get it done, I very much would of waited another year to put it out.

 

Raphael played the parts and got them to me late on Wednesday evening. He told me it's far from great but I do not have to use them or could just use certain parts if I wanted too. I have to say his guitar work on part 1 even though it was such a short part, was in fact truly amazing and blew me away.

 

The rhythm playing he did for part 4 was fantastic at the start, but he even told me himself that for this part he lost it a bit, and it maybe better not to use all of it.

 

But I soon found by applying various other guitar effects to certain parts of it from one of my guitar racks, it worked really well enough for me to use the whole of it. I even sent it him back to listen to because I know guitarists can be very critical if you mess with their sound, but as he explained to me, it's perhaps a bit false pretence but I could use it like that if I was happy enough with it. I was extremely happy and felt it worked really well.

 

Now for what he did for part 7 was a long way off my visualisation for what the guitar was supposed to be doing. All I wanted in reality was an atmospheric slow guitar sort of like Dave Gilmour of Pink Floyd. The fact that this stem was also dry and rather more like a Spanish guitar playing some sort of blistering rondo part, it just did not seem to work for me. He also told me himself it does not really fit with the haunting melody I got, but was all he could think of in so little time, and only use it if necessary.

 

Given the pressure Raphael was under I totally understand how hard this was to get all done in such a short amount of time. It was a lot of work to get through working on all 3 parts and when I first put his guitar stem he sent me for part 7 into the mix, at first it was very much saying to me to leave it out. But once again I started to experiment with my guitar rack of effects and with the use of overdrive and FX completely changed the sound of his guitar.

 

Now Raphael has not heard what I have done with his guitar at all, and he's probably gonna kill me and think it's sacrilege (LOL) But the real fact is that I wanted guitar in this part and had to make a big decision, because without the guitar it would have been put off for another year.

 

It was also during mixing in Raphael's guitar that I also got to mix in Mark's murmuring vocal part and got to hear it for the first time working in this murmuring way.

 

Also this week I sent Mark part 6 to see if he could do anything with that, and told him I was hoping to get this out for this Halloween so I need a rush job.

 

I must admit I was quite surprised to find and email back to me with it done within about an hour later. But the other thing I liked about it was the fact that he had tied it in with the priest from the previous part 5. Which I thought at first it was only a couple of lines and short, but his vision was bloody brilliant and worked great.

 

 I have to say what he did truly worked and his words were bloody great and you will have to read the lyrics to hear what he his saying in part 7, but that's exactly what was intended in the first place for the piece.

 

 

 

There is also 2 parts of this whole piece which are parts 6 & 7 that Vlad reckoned I had not lined his bass stems up right on back in 2012 and was slightly out. Back then I sent him various adjustments to listen to, and he still reckoned they was out.

 

Now with so little time over the last week I was actually going to send him them again to listen to. But never had the time, but I myself spent hours listening to these parts and for the life of me the original line up I had on them in the first place and how his stem lined up in my DAW was perfectly bang on in my book. So I have gone along with that without his permission, and I hope he does not slaughter me for it (LOL)

 

Vlad I can honestly say was a pure work horse on this project from day one, and is in fact the only guy apart from myself who plays on every single part. His work was absolutely outstanding. He can argue with me till the cows come home about the lining up of his stems on those last two parts, but in all honesty they work fantastic, and I genuinely feel they are bang on. I sometime even get the feeling he may of been pissed when I sent them him to hear in the first place (LOL)

 

Part 4 The Embalmer was an original idea of my own to have a jamming session to beef it up a bit. I originally made up this section using drum loops including its stops and played bass terribly over it on my keyboards and sent the piece to Vlad and Darren and asked them if they could replace my bass and drum parts with the genuine thing.

 

When I got back what the both of them had done it blew my head off that much that I only felt it fair to give them both the writing credits for this part. Both Vlad's bass line and Darren's drums totally blew mine out of the ball park, and if you listen to the original demo I sent them here of my terrible bass line played on the keys and with the use of drum loops to which it also even had the organ of my 1st take before playing it again over what the piece the guys sent me.

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I soon found by having a play around on the piano with Antonio's acapella it was in the key of F minor, so I simply used that as a basis of where to start on the music and within about 10 minutes of playing I came up with a piano and string intro followed by the use of a sequencer to which enabled me to sing the first verse of Jaime's lyrics, all I had here was about as long as Antonio's acapella which was just over a minute, and I sent it to Antonio to get his opinion, and asked him if he thought it was OK or if he had any other ideas.

 

He told me straight away he liked it and thought the way I had actually expressed my voice on the first verse gave it that prog rock feel about it, and he did at this point tell me maybe you should change the opening strings to a mellotron. Well my thoughts about that was that it was either here or there as I happen to be perhaps more of a strings fan than one of the mellotron, but I could see his point, and it was very much his suggestion that lead me to try out a mellatron sound to develop the next section. so I did that and threw in a bit of piano over it. Then sent it to Antonio to ask him his thoughts and also at this point I asked him to knock up some drums for me as I now needed to lift the music to be able to sing the words.

 

It was quite funny really as I asked Antonio to knock up some drums, and the very reason I did ask him is because I hate working on them myself and having told Antonio just that, he also told me he was exactly the same about them and hated it too, but he agreed and in a couple of days time he presented me with a beat, and he had even threw in the cymbals over the mellotron and piano section at the same time. The very much helped me to develop the singing section with the simple use of a keyboard pad and my voice singing Jaime's words. I had also done the bass lines at this stage too, and having got this far I very much asked Antonio to knock up some more drums for me as we are going to need a lead break section and I want to use a different bass line.

 

It was also at this stage that Antonio was putting more of his input into the process with his suggestions, and it was at this point he suggested to bring back in the sequenced section just before the lead break. I do remember saying to him at an earlier stage I was thinking of throwing a few spoken words or whispers into that original sequenced section at the start, but his suggestion of bringing it back in at this point for me worked a lot better and allowed me to get those whispers into it properly.

 

Then when Antonio presented me with the drums for the next section which was going to be the lead break, he had also thrown in the bass line an organ and some guitar played on his keyboards. Well this to me was starting to shape up really well I thought and I was very much enjoying the process of working and having another person onboard with me here, and always thought two heads were better than one so to speak, and Antonio was now really getting into the whole development here completely and it was all good in my book.

 

It was also at this point I got a message off Lennart on my facebook asking me if I was busy as he was wondering if I would do some vocals for some of his tracks. I must admit it was at this point I forgot entirely what Lennart did and having checked out his cloud and finding out he was a drummer who had been quite inactive for some time I asked him have you got something new you're working on for me to sing too, to which he told me I have had no work on the cloud for ages and could I sing on any of his tracks.

 

Well at this stage I was feeling well sorry for the guy and told him well right now I am working on a new song with another friend of mine who has just been busy knocking up some drums for me on his keyboards, but I think real drums would be better for us, and I will ask him if he would not mind having you onboard with us to do the drums for us. I told Antonio about my conversation with Lennart and he agreed it would be great to have a drummer onboard with us, despite the fact he had been busy himself doing the drums in the first place.

 

So for the final section we both decided to bring in the main vocal section as a reprise and fade it out. So that got done and off went the demo to Lennart to do the drums for is. It was also at this stage that me and Antonio were discussing it would be a good idea bringing in a guitarist, and my first choice was to give the job to Raphael who I knew would fit in here easily and do the job in no time at all.

 

But speaking of time, it was taking a bit of time to get the drums from Lennart as he completely disappeared for a week or so, but before doing so he had sent me some tests of the work he was doing. I was waiting for his drums so I could get a demo version over to Raphael to do his guitar parts. When Lennart did eventually return his reasons for being absent so long was well excusable as he told me had just lost his father, and I know only too well what losing family and friends can do to a guy, and in the end was just glad he could get the job finished for me, to which he did a super job of.

 

Raphael done the bizzo with his guitars and had the stems to me a day after sending him the demo, and I must say the end result I was dead proud of, and it's been quite an amazing experience in song writing for me, and having onboard all the great guys here who have all made this version of "The In Between" what it is.

 

 

 

 

 

 

So pleased to see the release of another great song and collaboration done with my good friends Raphael  & Jaime. "Before We Say Goodbye" as been in the making now for the last couple of months and it's very much a song that continues in the same vein as our first song we done together exactly 1 year ago to the month of August "I Remember When" a song that I was so proud to have taken part in, and still very much love till this day.

 

I must admit when Raphael first sent me the music demo for this one I was not overall that impressed with what he had at the time.

 

Don't get me wrong the music I was well impressed with, but the fact that he had offered it to me to put some vocals around, and Jaime to write some words for had me very confused, because for one thing there was 2 massive guitar solos throughout the whole thing, a little space at the beginning to put in say a verse and a chorus and even less space at the end of it. I thought the piece worked great for an instrumental, but for a song it was never gonna work in a million years.

 

Having left it with me for about a week or so and me giving it a couple of spins every now and then  and scratching my head as what the hell to do with it. I started breaking it down as to what it did need to make this work as a song.

 

The first thing I knew it needed was more verses, I also wanted a double chorus at the end, and I knew I had to chop his first guitar solo in half, as it was just gonna murder the thing in regards to a proper formatted song structure.

 

Having had this vision in my head, I then took his wave file put it in Steinberg Wavelab and chopped it up to reconstruct it. I lengthened sections for verses and choruses by using the same pieces I chopped up and doubling them, and took out half of his solo from the first lead break.

 

Having now got the structure for the song, I then put it in Cubase and sang anything from the top of my head over the first 2 verses and chorus, so that Jaime and Raphael could hear my vision and my vocal line and direction I had intended for it. I also pinpointed all the verses and choruses on the blue line for Jaime to get to work on the lyrics.

 

As this was our 2nd collab together as a team, I very much felt it important to keep to the same voice I chose for our first collab together with "I Remember When"  The title I also gave to this song, as well as that one,  and had put some ideas in Jaime's head for her to work on the lyrics. Though I must admit my own vision was not really clear at this point. I knew it had to have romance in it, and I knew it had to take place somewhere, at first in somewhere like Paris.

 

With Raphael working hard to reconstruct and rework what he had already done into the way I wanted it to go with the music, and Jaime now working on the lyrics, we very much had quite a break as we was all working on other projects at the time. After this period had passed Raphael got back to us with his new rework which was now looking more like it, except for one very important thing he had actually taken out of the music.

 

I say important because the thing that he actually did take out was the synth that runs in the speaking part. Though I had not actually done the speaking part at this point, I very much knew it was going to have one, and even  had posted a comment on that blue line in that section that I felt this would be great for a speaking section.

 

Even without having the words off Jaime at this point yet, I knew without that synth in it was never gonna allow me to express that part properly. It was that very little thing that gave me the idea in the first place, so I asked Raphael to put it back in.

 

It was not long after that Jaime came back with a set of lyrics. At first when I seen them I thought they was good enough to be honest, but as I tried singing and recording them along to the music, for the life of me I got so far and kept stopping. I tried it on 3 occasions an gave up. I even left them alone for about 5 days and had another go, and I still had the same problem.

 

I must admit when somebody gives you a set of lyrics and you read through them and think everything is ok, the whole story never really sinks in till you try and get more of a feel for it when singing it.

 

It was at this point that Jaime's story which was based around a couple who had met, and set up a house together and had kids before saying goodbye for me just was not working, for how I seen the whole story now in my head, and my vision of how this story should go.

 

When Jaime presented me with the words for "I Remember When"  everything she wrote in them words were absolutely bang on to my vision of how the story should be. It was as if she had seen inside my head and wrote them down, though no way could of I myself have actually come up with them in the way she did. They was immaculate.

 

I cannot blame Jaime for the first set of lyrics she first provided me for "Before We Said Goodbye"  because my vision was not clear at the time, and only really came to light having seen what was wrong with this story when I tried to sing it.

 

It then came into my head that this couple never set up home together, and never had kids. They met in a certain place, and they was from two different countries  and fell in love in a country that prevented them from being together cause of certain laws, and at one stage they would have to part.

 

I presented Jaime with my new vision, and asked her if she would kindly rewrite the lyrics. I must admit  I had a lump in my throat when I pressed that send button on the message I sent her asking to do so. I even got in touch with Raphael 2 weeks earlier telling him I was gonna have to ask Jaime to rewrite the lyrics as I felt they was not working, and it took me some 2 weeks to send that message to Jaime.

 

Why it took me that long I will never know, cause Jaime was very professional about it all, even Raphael was , as in his reply to me about the lyrics not working, he very much told me that's down to you two, and not my department  (LOL)

 

I cannot believe the speed Jaime got back to me with the new lyrics, she was about to go on vacation at the time, and sent me a message back I will do them straight away, and got the new set of lyrics back to me within' a couple of hours.  I did however only really ask her to work on the verses as I very much used the words from her first set of lyrics to make up the chorus.  

 

I have to say with all honesty Jaime did a really superb job on the new set of lyrics, and once again had captured my vision perfectly, so much that the fact she actually included the setting in the war just as it was with "I Remember When"  makes this a perfect set up to do an whole album of songs based on this subject.  Who knows in a few years down the line we may just have achieved doing such a thing, and that would be the icing on the cake, cause I feel this combination works superbly.

"The In Between" is one of the most amazing pieces of work I have ever worked on and in reality it was like turning something along the lines of a Frank Sinatra song into something that is more familiar with a Progressive Rock song. Just how this all came about in the first place was through my good friend Antonio a.k.a. Anmafean who happened to message me on facebook about 5 or 6 weeks ago now asking me if I was busy and would I like to do a collab with him.

 

Well I was working on a few things around that time and asked him what he had got in mind, to which he replied have you seen the lyrics Jaime had posted on facebook to which I told him yes, and then he told me well I want you to sing them. I said ok and have got the music done for it, to which he told me no and was wondering if would work on something with him.

 

Well I told him straight I was not the sort of Elton John guy who could look at a set of lyrics and work music around them and that's why I never really paid that much attention to them in the first place. For me the music has to come first. Well at this stage Antonio told me oh Ok but would you listen to this acapella I made of me singing the song, so I replied sure. Having downloaded his acapella and hearing it, I told him leave it with me and I will stick it in Cubase and have a play around it and see what I can do. He also sent me Jaime's lyrics to which he had arranged. This here is Antonio's original acapella he sent me.

Posted on the 10th May 2014

2012 Demo - Unknown Artist
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With Stefan's busy schedule it was perhaps a bit foolish to present him with such a vast amount of work over this distance. But I do love Stefan's work to which I class way better than anything I can do myself. His production work and guitar playing is superb, and I guess I just wanted that element in it to add to this at the end of the day especially as the work was not complete when we gave it Jaime to present it to him back in September of 2012.

 

The piece was indeed intended for Stefan's birthday and even though he could not find time to do anything for it, I still only feel it would be fair to dedicate the piece to him, to which I very much have, as it was intended for him in the first place.

 

I would like to thank the following: Jaime J. Ross. Vlad Josephson. Darien Chilton. Chris Scheri. Mark Bennett and Raphael sincerely for their superb work and contribution throughout the course of this project very long project who without it would of never happened .

 

The Recycle (From Death Comes Life)

The story itself is very fictional and based around reincarnation in the way that one leaves this earth so to speak, and his spirit ascends into another body or women's womb to be reborn.

 Part 1. Knocking On Deaths Door. (Music & Words By Lee Lucas)
Lee Lucas - Keyboards - Piano - Voice. - Vlad Josephson - Bass. - Raphael GTR - Guitar.

The opening scene starts with the bells of doom or the grim reaper so to speak coming to claim the soul of a chap who has suffered most of his life with illness, and goes by the name of Ivor  Lobotomuss Trotsky. Who proceeds to tell you of his sufferings over the past 50 odd years.

(Lyrics)

I've been here now for fifty odd years
plagued with suffering and toil
I've had the triffs and the trots
occasional dementia
playing around with my mind
all the time.

Part 2. The Life That Falls Before Me. (Music By Lee Lucas/Words By Jaime J. Ross)
Lee Lucas - Keyboards - Piano - Vocals. Vlad Josephson - Bass. Darren Chilton (Spectrum_One) - Drums.

In this scene we see Ivor  Lobotomuss Trotsky coming face to face with death as his life falls before him and takes him away.

(Lyrics)

As I look through the eyes
that have seen so many days
the paths I have walked
the memories I made

Some things I would change
while others I'd re-do
Now here I stand
as death watches over me

I can see
It tells me it's time
I can see
the life that falls before me now
I can

Life as gone just like the blade that penetrates my heart...
now it's gone
I feel it's pain, scorching pain
that won't let me be till life comes to cease
and eyes shut out the view

Many seasons have changed
uncrossed bridges have burned
as my life tells me it as gone

Lost in time
precious time
oh my life as gone before me now

In time
lasting time
life as falled before me now

Tick tock clock ticking out time

Part 3. The Bereavement. (Music By Lee Lucas)
Lee Lucas - Piano. Vlad Josephson - Bass. Jaime J. Ross - Tears.

This scene is set after Ivor's death and is one for the mourners shedding their tears in grief.

Part 4. The Embalmer. (Music By Vlad Josephson & Darren Chilton)
Lee Lucas - Organ. Vlad Josephson - Bass. Darren Chilton - Drums. Raphael GTR - Guitar.

This scene is rather a busy jam and reflects the embalmer  being busy at work preparing the stiff corpse of Ivor  Lobotomuss Trotsky for presentation at the funeral parlour.

Part 5. Laid To Rest. (Music & Words By Lee Lucas)
Lee Lucas - Keyboards. Vlad Josephson - Bass. Mark Bennett - As The Reverend Will C. U. Off McDead.

This scene is set to say our last goodbyes to the late Ivor  Lobotomuss Trotsky.

Lyrics

Dear family and friends and all of thou who are present with us today.
We have come to say goodbye to a dear friend and lay to rest his soul.
So that he will rest forever in peace,
and may one day come to be with us once again.
Let us now cast him to the shadow of death.

Part 6. Walking in my Shadow. (The Spirit Lives On) (Music By Jaime J. Ross/Words By Mark Bennett)
Jaime J Ross - Piano. Lee Lucas - Keyboards. Vlad Josephson - Bass. Mark Bennett - As The Reverend Will C. U. Off McDead.

This scene is set as the spirit leaves the body and soul and lives on in search of another soul.

Lyrics

'He who walked with the living, now shall walk with the angels,
Take comfort that he is not alone'

Part 7. The Recycle (What Goes Around, Comes Around) (Music By Lee Lucas/Words By Mark Bennett)
Lee Lucas - Keyboards. Vlad Josephson - Bass. Raphael GTR - Guitar. Mark Bennett - Murmuring Voice.

The final scene sees the spirit finding its new home inside the mother womb to begin life once again.

Lyrics

Well, it feels warm and comfortable,
But I'm not really sure I'd want to live here.
Although, I can't really see any way out of here,
Even if I wanted to leave.
And anyway, how did I get here?
Do you think if I gave a little kick,
I'd get a reaction.
Just see what happens,
See if anyone notices.
Oh! They did.
Oh! And again.
I can hear someone's heartbeat and I don't think it's mine.

Do you know something, I think I've been here before.
It all feels so familiar, in another life.
I can't quite place it but this all feels so strangely familiar,
Like I've come through this process before.
But I can't remember what happened next.
There must be some kind of way out of here?
Now that sounds familiar too.
What if this is me forever?
Wouldn't be that bad, would it?
Well, it might become a bit boring.
But I have everything I need.
I think I'll maybe just give a few more kicks,
And see what happens.
See if I get another reaction.
If I get bored it's always something to do,
Give a kick.

 

2012 Demo Jam - Unknown Artist
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Here is another original demo to which for a long time now I have wanted so much to put out this piece of fun I had back in 2012 whilst working on this project. It's very much the original demo done back then of the guided vocals of me singing words from the top of my head for part 2 so that Jaime could listen to and work her lyrics around it.

 

This demo has me in bits laughing every time I hear it, because as you will hear me singing just anything and as it progresses along, I soon begin to run out of words to find, and suddenly burst into asking Jaime to write some words for me.

 

In all honesty for me this original vocal line shows a hell of a lot more expression in my voice than what was on the final version put out today with me singing the actual lyrics.

 

 

Posted on the 19th December 2014

I have had many conversations with Conrad in the past in our local pub, where I have told him quite a lot of the things I got up to in the past, just as he has likewise, but he always said you should put these stories into your songs. For years now I was never sure just how to go about doing such a thing, and getting everything into the context to make a song out of them.

 

The first time I ever embarked on such a thing was in fact with another one of the songs we done together which was "West County Borderline" to which was based around my youthful days of having a night out with the lads and playing pranks on those who were so unfortunate to be that drunk they fell asleep on the train home, and we simply left them on their without waking them up, and they would wind up in another town stranded for the night to sleep it off till the next day. Though I must confess a lot of that I elaborated and placed into a dividing border of two towns, and perhaps in the two states of America rather than here in England.

 

For "I'm On The Run" it was a totally different kettle of fish, as most of the words you will hear in this song are reality and at least 90% of them are the actual truth. The remaining 10%  has been elaborated to tie in with the music and style of the music. But even that 10% is also mostly the truth but never actually happened in the remand home I am speaking of in this song.

 

The 30 shillings per week I got per week is false and in reality I only got half of that which was 15 shillings, which was still a hell of a lot of money back in those days. I used the term of 30 shillings from an actual song all the kids used to sing in that very home I was in.

 

I was very much placed in a junior remand home called Athelstan House. They call it a junior remand home, but trust me there was quite a few kids who had been thrown in there that were in their seniors and around 14 and 15 years old. The song which everyone was singing about was also not about the home I was in, and was based around another children's remand home called Forrell House. Which apparently was a lot tougher and many of the kids in Athelstan House had actually been in their before, hence the reason why a lot of the kids sang this song called Forrell House.

 

One of the lines to the actual song I have never forgotten till this day and the words go as thus:

 

"They say that in the forrell the money's very fine, they give you 30 shillings and take back 29. Oh I don't want to live in forrell house" and so on sang very much in a traditional style.

 

So that's why I decided to use 30 shillings in this song rather than the actual 15 I got. I can remember a good many lines from that original song, that went along in the same sort of lines about the food and how they treat you and so on.

 

But also I must confess that the remand home I was actually in here. I never run away from at all. But I did run away from all the others I was put in afterwards, which is why I did include the others to make up the full story here and put into context in that way.

 

The fact that the keys was also left in the door was very much true as well, and not only did those keys provide an exit, but also when I was brought back by the police. both me and a guy who I was friends with at the time, found out that on that bunch of keys the staff had left in the door, one of them was the key to the food larder, and we both raided it and had the time of our lives in their scoffing all the biscuits and cakes (LOL)

 

The real reality about Athelstan House was that it was the only remand home I was ever put in that had bars on the windows. The rest of the other children's homes I got put in afterwards, were very much like normal living houses and very much in real living areas not so much out of the way or as big at all.

 

Out of every place I was ever put in Athelstan House was in fact the only one I ever liked, and in reality did not want to leave there. The very reason why I ran away from all the other homes was to get back in the place. But they never seen that at all, and my time at Athelstan House was only a very short 6 months, before they placed me into a normal house which was a children's home with about  8 kids in at the most.

 

It was never easy being taken away from my mom and my brothers when they put me in that remand home, and as an 11 year old child I cried for days saying I was sorry and all sorts just to try and get back home. Just for doing that I soon got picked on by the other kids, but I was quite a tearaway back in those days and could pretty much handle myself, and some of those kids soon felt my fists coming at their faces.

 

But there was also the fact that some of these kids were a lot older than me that I got a few fists in my face too, but I got very lucky with one of the oldest boys and sure cock of the place taking a liking to me, and sticking up for me as well. I am not talking about no sexual thing here and there was a reason he liked me, and that was because he seen I was not afraid of even him and would have a go, no matter if I got my head kicked in.

 

But that also was not his only reason for him taking a liking to me, he soon found I could be quite witty and funny, but also he soon discovered I could play the harmonica. He had a guitar and used to play and liked me to accompany him and have a sing song in the evenings to pass the time away. So it was not long before I got grips and fitted in with the place at all.

 

But none of those things about Athelstan House were the very reason why I loved the place so much. The real reality of it all was it was like paradise to a child, and much freedom was also given to me in the fact that the built in school it did have on the other side of the massive playground were we played football inside the premises. We only ever spent 3 hours a day at school and that was from 9 pm till 12 pm.

 

Then to top all that, in the afternoon for all those who were very good, got to get out of the place for the afternoon. Either to the park, the pictures to see a movie or spent a trip on the canal on a barge. I even got to see the film Bedknobs and Broomsticks before it was opened to the public at the pictures.

 

The only real things I disliked about the place was the fact we had to be in bed by 9pm after our supper, and the fact that I did really have to get up in the morning and polish the corridors after breakfast (LOL)

 

The song "I'm On The Run" if anything does not really represent the full reality of my time spent at Athelstan House, and you would think I had dreadful time at the place just by listening to how I have put the words across in the song. But the words are minced with the other homes I very much disliked and constantly ran away from within the context here and reality of those days. It's very much what I did over a space of some 3 years, and why I missed so much time at school.

 

I have never been able to do anything like this before in my life regarding writing lyrics, and the words in this song I am dead proud of and the biggest majority of it is the real truth and portrays a very good story I feel in how I have put them. I very much regard the words here as some of the finest I have ever writ.

Posted on the 15th January 2015

For "Coming Home" I decided to base the lyrics around the war, or rather about a chap who was in the very battle of it all, fighting his way to get back home to his sweetheart so to speak. Though it may sound like a touch of romance, the song itself is quite hard edged and certainly rocks.

 

The fact that I had mentioned to Daion my intentional ideas of what subject matter I would be basing the lyrics around before I had actually written anything down, gave Daion the idea to make a bridge section to which he told me maybe a Spitfire sound would be great to have in it. So I set about finding one on freesouds.org but then decided it was never gonna be enough on its own, so I decided to go back there and also throw in a battle scene as well.

 

I must admit the bridge section though such a small part, presented me with a problem of finding something to say in it and how to exactly express some words for it. The fact that Daion's guitar was more or less in a Black Sabbath mode with its sound, gave me the idea to try out sort of a semi Alice Cooper impression over it.

 

The fact that we had the war sounds going on it as well really led me to going too far with it at first, and I wrote a little script with words for my Alice Cooper part and words for the part of a Sergeant Major I was going to play as well. Recorded it like that and sent it to Daion to ask him his opinion. Though Daion was very polite with his response, he felt it would be better with just the one voice and leave out the Sergeant Major parts.

 

Having played it a few times back, I soon realised he was 100% right because the song was in fact being diverted away into more of a play or story, when what we really wanted was for it to rock, and the fact that I also added a touch of comedy in the words for the Sergeant Major was really all too much.

 

Here is the short script I wrote:

 

Corporal Jenkins - I see the enemy over the hills in the distance.

Sergeant Lucas - OK men man your battle stations, and be prepared for the enemy.

Corporal Jenkins - I see the fear in their eyes.

Sergeant Lucas - This is no time for smoking Jenkins, now put that fag out.

 

Here is my original mix with the script included :

Battle Scene Clip Demo - Lee Lucas & Daion
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I have also included here a demo of the song at its first stage where it was long enough to sing my guided vocal line over it to be able work on the lyrics.

 

I must admit it's quite funny as at the time I done this in the kitchen with the music blasting out in my cans singing into my phone, I was totally unaware the washing machine was on, and never noticed it at all until I took the recording off my phone and mixed it into the track in Cubase.

 

I even sent it to Daion to show him how I felt the direction of the vocals would be for this one, and we had a great laugh about it.

Coming Home (Guided Vocal Demo) - Lee Lucas & Daion
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